Testimonials

Do you remember Helen?

Yes, I love her, yes.

Yeah. She lost about 110 pounds, about 55 kilos so far, and she’s in Sydney so I was in Sydney last week and I caught up with her and she was at the seminar, and she’s still — her weight loss is progressing and something else that’s happened to her, which is pretty amazing, is that when you lose weight you get like a lot of excess skin.

Yes.

And she started to have that, but her skin’s starting to get tighter through certain things that she’s doing. So I'm just going to talk about that a little bit. So can you put Helen through? And also I want to finish Helen’s story because last time she was on for a little while and we didn’t really get into her story of what happened, why she put on the weight originally and so I want to finish that story a little bit.

Yeah. She's one of your great success stories for the listeners that don’t know her. She was on a couple of weeks ago and we just loved having her on and love that she's progressing. Is she there? Helen?

Yes, hello Kelly.

Hi sweetie.

Hi Helen.

Hi Jon.

How are you?

I’m good, I’m wonderful.

Helen, the last time you were on we talked a little bit about your weight loss, but there was just a whole part of the story that I don’t think we really ever got to about how you sort of had kind of an epiphany when you were reading the book about what the real issues were for you and why you put the weight on in the first place. And I think a lot of people would be interested to know more about that experience and what happened after that.

That’s fine. I think I've mentioned that my weight has continued and I put on weight and put on weight and whatever I did didn’t make any difference. Like you said, you lose that first little bit and then you stay there and you lose no more and it was just awful and I hated every part of it. And then when I read the book and when I saw that you brought in the emotional and the mental side as well as the physical, I knew there was something more in it, and it was then in the tape. And all my life, it was emotional and all the hurts and everything else that were there and I really believe that my body just kept that weight on me to protect me.

Right.

And it was its way of doing it — because I just couldn’t lose it. There was no way I could lose it and I think I knew —

Well, what would happen when you tried to lose the weight? Would you go on a diet or?

Well, Jon, I’d only lose about two kilos and then it would just stop and I’d still be swimming and still be walking and still be eating what they’re telling me to eat. It would just stop.

Yeah.

And I mean at times it just wouldn’t move anywhere and it didn’t matter what I did. My body just hung on to that weight. And over time I just kept getting bigger as well.

Yeah. Even though you weren’t eating that much.

I could honestly say people would look at me and say, “But you eat nothing,” and so possibly I wasn’t doing my body any good because I could go and I wouldn’t eat all day. I wasn’t hungry and I wouldn’t eat which, of course, that’s not the best way to do it either, but when I think about all, that’s what it is, it’s not it at all because I just could not and it didn’t matter what I did, I just could not and my body just would not lose any of that weight.

Okay. I know you said you went to the doctors and they would say, “Oh you’re just eating too much,” or something like or what would they say?

Oh, well, Jon, I did everything and to me one of the most freeing things of what’s happened to me because I have a real thing about truth and justice, is that I can stand up there and say I was not what I ate and I knew I wasn’t what I ate and it’s just amazing to me because they don’t believe you. You’ve got to exercise more, you’ve got to eat this, you’ve got to do this, you’ve got to do that, and in my heart I knew that wasn’t it at all.

Yeah, yeah. I just remember —

And I mean — sorry.

I just remember with me you go into a doctor and he'd just say, “Well, just eat less,” and I know I — I wasn’t exactly like you, Helen, because there were times where I really did eat a lot. But there were other times where I was really trying to diet but what would happen, even with the diets, I wasn’t losing weight either so.

With my diabetes, I had to be careful, and I mean I did eat a good diet. They would just look at me. I mean I'd hate to tell everybody how many tears I’ve cried in doctor’s surgeries and it was really just for that thing of not being believed. And I knew that — and then I had one doctor wanted to prescribe me a drug and I said, “Well what would this do?” And he said, “Well it will go to your brain and suppress your appetite,” and I said, “You’re not listening to me. I don’t get hungry.”

Right.

But I was always looking for something because I wasn’t doing it right. It was always that I wasn’t doing it right.

Right, right, right. I was just saying I think it’s kind of inconceivable to most people that you can gain weight and keep weight on without eating anything, but I have to tell you, I’ve heard from so many people that say, “I’m eating nothing, eating practically nothing, and I can’t lose weight.”

Wasn’t that part of your story? You were in the hospital and you were on an IV and gained weight?

I did, Kelly. I had major surgery and actually left the hospital heavier than when I went in there and people sort of just shook their head, but that wasn’t any consolation to me.

Yeah. I just want to say one thing, Helen. What people don’t realize is when these FAT programs are on that I talk about in the book, which are basically survival program that are designed to keep fat on you as protection from famines. These are ancient survival programs that we inherited. When these FAT programs are on, your body goes into a kind of fat storage mode where it loses the ability to burn fat and most people go — people go on a diet and they think it’s all calories in, calories out and nobody even bothers to ask the question, “Do I even have the ability to burn fat at all?”

And when these FAT programs are on, the answer’s no, not really, because what happens is your body loses its sensitivity to insulin which you clearly had because you had Type 2 Diabetes. And Type 2 Diabetes is a very, very severe case of insulin resistance. Your body stops listening to the hormone insulin and because your body stops listening to the hormone insulin, your insulin levels actually elevate and insulin is the fat storage hormone.

So when your insulin levels are elevated, insulin stops your body from burning fat. It actually won’t let your body produce or secrete the hormones that burn fat, so you lose the ability to burn fat. And so people just assume if I eat less, I’m going to lose weight. But if your insulin levels are elevated, you’ve lost the ability to burn fat, at least efficiently.

So that’s why people can eat almost nothing and still lose weight. But the fact that you were eating nothing in the hospital, you were on IV, and you were gaining weight, that’s pretty incredible. I mean that is really…

I know it was. Jon, the other day I was driving home and because I often think, can I think the FAT programs are a real issue and we’ve got to look at it and what’s the way to turn it off. And I think mine had possibly been on all my life to protect me through all the abuse and everything that I went through, but I was thinking, and I don’t know if I’m right or wrong, but I will share it with everybody. I thought maybe my fat switch was turned off once in my life and that was when I fell in love and I felt safe and everything else and I lost weight. And I thought, “How many people out there, when they fall in love, might lose a bit of weight,” and I thought well maybe my fat program turned off at that point because I was feeling safer, and I really think that it’s got to do with the body wanting to protect you and feeling safer. But I mean, they obviously turned back on.

So tell me what happened. Tell me what happened with you, where you had this sort of realization and then what happened? You told me that you were reading the chapter on emotional obesity.

Yeah. Well, what happened, I read the book and I couldn’t wait to listen to the tape and so after the three attempts of falling asleep before the end, I did it in the morning and I heard it all the way through and I might have shared, it got to the point to let go of the past. And I mean, I thought I’d done all of that. I’ve had a very, very abusive and hurtful life but I’m fine and everything else, but I really felt I never held on to it. I didn’t have any anger or grudge to the abusers or whatever else, there was no point. But what I think I was holding onto and what I lost, and then when I read the book and I start again and I’d actually already highlighted it, that my initial weight loss was that I let go of all the pain that was in my body. My body, I think, was full of pain. And I listened to the tape and I let go of the past and when I did that, obviously at the subconscious level, and I think that’s really, really important.

Jon and Helen, I’m getting emails here of people that not acquainted with the program and I hope it’s okay if I ask this.

Okay.

So when you’re talking about the tape and the SMART Mode, could maybe we go into that a little bit because I’m getting like 20 emails saying what tape?

Okay, okay. Helen, give me a second just to talk about that if I can. Are these people also, Kelly, that aren’t familiar with me and my approach? Is that what they're saying?

No. They know you, they love you.

Okay.

But they didn’t read the book maybe yet or they just got the book. I had a lady who just emailed me and said she brought the book in her office and someone took it.

They don’t know what the CD is, okay.

Right. A lot of people don’t.

Okay. Originally the book came out in Australia with a CD called The Mental Secret of Eating Visualization CD. In the book I talk about this CD, and what it is, is it’s a guided visualization that you listen to at night and it’s designed to do a couple of things. One, it’s designed to lower stress because stress, for some people, causes chemistry to activate the FAT programs.

What literally happens is, every time you have stress, it causes some sort of chemistry in your body. And different stresses produce different types of chemistry. But sometimes for some people, the types of stresses that they experience in their lives produce the exact same chemistry as a famine. Because if you were in a famine, that’s a stress that would cause certain chemistry. So you might be in just some sort of mental and emotional — like just the stress of trying to make ends meet or something like that, it could cause the same chemistry.

And what it does is, it tricks your body into activating these FAT programs and when that happens, your body wants to be fat. It wants to hold onto weight for survival reasons. These are ancient programs designed to keep us alive.

So one of the things that you can do to turn those off is to lower your stress level and when you listen to the CD, it lowers your stress level. You listen to it at night and it de-stresses you. The other thing it does is, it helps communicate to your body that you’re safe and it's safe to lose the weight. Because weight is always about protection. Fat originally protected us from famines. If there wasn't enough to eat, you could have fat — your body could live off that. And it protected you from cold weather.

So fat is always a form of protection. Now in today’s world, we don’t have famines and we don’t have to worry about cold weather because we have controlled environments, but we have stress. And there’s lots of different stress. And your body sometimes thinks that that stress — it’s always trying to do something to protect you from the stress because your body doesn’t understand mental and emotional stress. Any time you have mental and emotional stress, it’s always going to — to your body it’s always going to try to do something to protect you today. It thinks that you’re in physical danger. You might be worried about paying your mortgage six months from now, but to your body, that stress is going to cause a chemistry and your body's going to say, “What’s happening? I need to protect myself from something.”

So if it activates the FAT programs, what your body’s saying is it’s confusing the stress of your life for a famine. So it communicates — it reduces the stress, but it also communicates to your body that you’re safe, that you don’t need the weight and that you can let it go and —

What you get from the tape is what people want to know.

This is what you get from the tape. You get from the tape — you experience from the tapes. It’s a 20 or 30 minute tape, CD, that you listen to at night and it relaxes you, it puts you in a very deep state, it helps you go to sleep, and it communicates to your body that you are indeed safe and that it’s safe to let go of the weight.

So this CD also uses visualization which is a really powerful tool to help you lose weight, and when you’re in this really deep state — it puts you in a deep state that I call SMART Mode which is a very powerful state, and when you’re in that state and you have a visualization —

That’s what people want to know about. The SMART Mode.

Yeah, they’re very powerful. As a matter of fact, we’ve got a caller that I just want to take. Helen, stay on because I want to finish with your story. But we’ve got a couple of callers and Ramon is calling actually to ask, I think, about SMART Modes.